The Master’s program in Probability and Finance at Sorbonne University, better known as the El Karoui Master’s, attracts brilliant candidates each year from Polytechnique, ENS, or highly selective university programs. Faced with this concentration of talent, a common question among candidates arises: should one aim for the top of the ranking to benefit from this training?
Ranking in the El Karoui cohort: what recruiters really look at
The natural reflex is to think that a high rank opens all doors. The reality of recruitment in France has evolved in recent years.
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During a roundtable organized by the French Association of Financial Management in March 2024, quant managers from BNP Paribas and Société Générale clarified their criteria. They no longer look at the exact rank in the cohort. What they evaluate boils down to three elements: a rough ranking (top, middle, or bottom of the cohort), the internships completed, and the level of programming.
In other words, the difference between fifth and fifteenth place carries no measurable weight in a hiring process. A student in the upper half of the cohort, with a relevant internship in a trading room and a solid mastery of Python or C++, has the same chances as a top student who may have only completed an academic internship.
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It is entirely possible to succeed in the El Karoui Master’s without being a top student as long as the overall background shows a coherence between theoretical skills and operational experience.
Internships and programming: the two levers that weigh more than the final grade
Why do recruiters emphasize internships and coding so much? Because the daily life of a quant does not resemble a stochastic calculus exam.
The internship as a filter for professional maturity
A front-office internship at an investment bank or hedge fund exposes the student to concrete issues: model calibration on market data, latency constraints, interaction with traders. This operational experience differentiates two CVs with comparable academic backgrounds.
Sorbonne University’s internal statistics, presented in the Mathematics and Applications program committee in 2023, show a notable dispersion of career paths. Some top students pursue academic PhDs or leave finance, while students from the middle of the cohort secure permanent positions in front-office quant roles.
Programming as a disqualifying criterion
A candidate who masters Python, C++, and numerical computing libraries positions themselves in a market where demand exceeds supply. Conversely, a profile very strong in probability theory but limited in programming finds themselves confined to pure research roles, which are fewer in number.
The technical skills expected by quant recruiters include:
- Mastery of Python (numpy, pandas, scipy) for rapid prototyping of models and exploratory analysis of financial data
- A sufficient practice of C++ to understand and contribute to the pricing libraries used in production
- The ability to pass technical interviews involving probabilities, statistics, and algorithms, a format that has become standard in French banks and London funds
Alumni network of the El Karoui Master’s: an underestimated accelerator
The alumni association of the master’s program, “Les Anciens de Probabilités et Finance,” has established an informal mentoring program since 2022. Alumni support students who are not at the top of the cohort to help them secure internships and quant VIE positions, particularly in London and Amsterdam.
This network reduces the practical advantage of being a top student for accessing initial positions. A student well-supported by a mentor working at a Dutch market maker or a London exotic desk gains access to opportunities that ranking alone does not guarantee.
The 2022-2023 activity report of the association, published on the Alumni page of Sorbonne University, details this initiative. The mentoring covers preparation for technical interviews, CV reviews, and direct connections with recruiters.
Ideal profile to join and succeed in the Master’s in Probability and Finance
Are you considering applying to the El Karoui Master’s? Admission remains very selective, but post-graduation success is not solely about the rank achieved during the program.
Here are the elements that make up a strong profile upon graduation from the master’s:
- A foundation in mathematics (probability, stochastic calculus, PDE) at the level expected by the program, without the need to be the best in every module
- At least one internship in a quantitative environment (bank, asset manager, specialized fintech) completed before or during the M2
- A personal coding project or a GitHub repository demonstrating regular practice of programming applied to finance
- An active participation in the alumni network to access mentoring and unpublished job offers
The El Karoui Master’s trains cohorts each year whose paths diverge significantly after graduation. The rank in the cohort is just one signal among others, and rarely the most decisive in the eyes of employers. French quant recruiters now prioritize a concrete triptych: a sufficient academic level, targeted internship experience, and demonstrable programming skills. Building this triptych during the program matters more than aiming for the top spot in the ranking.